Do you believe in "curses"??

[*Gypsy*]

If so why?
or have you ever cursed someone or something?

[ladymidnight]

I curse things all the time but just in jest.
It does seem like some people have more run in's with bad luck but at the same time I believe good and bad things do rain on the good and bad, some all at once-other times spread out over time. I can't see a true "curse" holding though unless the person really is deserving.

I remember growing up my mom would sometimes use the word "curse" in refering to the luck with men with the women in the family. From the things she told me though about the situations even when I was little I would think "well, no, maybe if they had just used a little common sense in picking men things would have been better. It was seeing the same pattern and not breaking the cycle of wrong thinking that lead to their poor desisions". But still that term stuck with me at the same time and I even found myself in that mindframe of thinking the same way. When I was 18 I went to a so called psychic that said the same thing but it was one of those deal where she promised to break this so called curse which slowly involved more and more money. I was stupid and went with it, even though I thought something did'nt seem right I did'nt want to admit I had been ripped off and did'nt tell anyone for a long time and since then only my best friend. The woman skipped town before I could really confront her. It was a cheap ploy she may have used on others too. That's one of the reasons I stayed away from anything with the occult for awhile amoung other reason with just working on myself.

So all in all, can curses happen? For me it's short answer yes with alot of "buts" and "howevers". Sometimes stuff just happens and other times we do things that help the good or bad.

[just]

No, In no way do I do curses and I don't think any true Wiccan would because it is against our standards. A true Wiccan believes in doing good deeds never bad. We believe that what good we do comes back to use 3 times, same thing about anything bad we would do.
I am confused here, is this board for Wiccans? Do you believe in Black magic? Someone help me out here.

[Fallen]

lol. Hey Just, this is a board for witches of all paths, which of course includes wiccans. We don't believe in black magick, at least those of us who put this place together don't.....I can't answer for all of our members. But, that doesn't mean we can't discuss the beliefs of everyone. When Gypsy asked if everyone believes in curses I think she was just getting a discussion going. And remember, not everyone in here is wiccan and not everyone here believes in the wiccan reed. I for one will never use a spell to do something bad to someone, but when it comes down to it I will protect myself and my own, and occasionally that will mean sending someone on their way. It all depends on perspective I guess. Also, there are other ways to feel cursed for sure. I always said I was born on an unlucky day and because of that have to deal with my own form of curse......I only joke around when I say this, but when things go bad I often wonder if there isn't some truth in it. And also, I know that I am cursed when it comes to computers. Ask my friends and they'll back me up here, especially in the past few days. Sometimes the word curse is just another way to say bad luck, which we all know a little something about.

[just]

Thank you for the information. Due to past lifes I try to be very careful of those around me. Even though I have had ill thoughts against 1 person or 2, the thought of acting on them would be hard for me to do. In fact all these years and I have never wished ill on another where I would help it alone.

[*Gypsy*]

well Just lets see if I can let you know what I'm thinking here, Fallen is right, I started this post to get us chatting.
I am not Wiccan, I do believe that people send curses out against other people.
I also use this as my guide in life, lets take the K.J. Bible for instance....it says the most wicked thing on a human being is the tongue!
Talking trash about someone can be considered a curse also.
So you see how far back we are talking?
We can also curse ourselfs with our own mouth, we bring on so much bad energy into our lives by just saying it.
Now...you ask me if I would ever curse someone?
I do know how to, but would I ..only if I really needed to defend me or mine.
yes, I understand all the bull so called psychics use to rip people off...and thats sad.
To help someone remove a curse is to change their way of thinking about things.
with the knowledge of how to undo a curse that someone put on you, most of the time the person knows they were cursed and by who.
this brings up another question....thats why Witches after doing their rituals are the only ones to know their own Witch name, so we don't get cursed or for some other witch to bind our powers or energy.
I am not sure how Wiccans do this, a solitary witch keeps this name only between her/his self and their highter being.
to me on this path I have had to learn about the dark arts and Blood Spells to understand what I'm working with or against.
it really doesn't matter if we believe it or not, it's a fact and in our faces everyday, not talking about the dark arts will not make them go away.
Boo bought a Book of Shadows from 1909 with Blood Spells in it!
I cant wait to see some photos, it was from a Witch named Ann in 1909, what a great find she has.
Blessed Be Gypsy

[Daydreamer]

Do I believe in them - anything is possible. Have I ever done one - no and I don't believe I could. I have never wished harm on someone, but I have done workings to show someone the results of their behaviors (think of looking into a mirror) and to protect others from them, namely my friends little girls who were in harms way due to the actions of another for a little while. Some may label these as curses, but to me, it's teaching, and like I said I didn't intend harm to them. You can find a way to achieve just about anything if you give true thought to your intent.

As for being cursed, you have free will, it will only work if you let it. And I do believe that we are our own worst enemies in that respect. The more you believe and repeat to yourself that you are "cursed" with one thing or another the more that will be exactly what happens. Think positive and positive things will happen (you'll be more open to the better possibilities).

[ladymidnight]

This is more on a comical side but I remember back in January I was at a bar watching a band play and I see the ex-husband of one of my close friends who dumped her big time the year before for no good reason and he was being quite the ladies man and catting around out on the dance floor-I tapped on the shoulder of the new friend sitting next to me and pointed him out, told her the story, and caught myself saying in a most Monty Python kind of way even though he could not hear me at all "Ewww...I am so sending negative vibes in your direction Brain!" all the while waving my hands towards him (he was too wrapped up in every gal to notice me till later that night) as if I was really pushing the smite towards him. I don't typically do something that silly, I do have a short temper on little things that I want to work on, but mostly I try to remember what comes around goes around, just as with that guy-he may think he is having "fun" now but he will be lonely later, regret it, and hopefully change his ways with or without "my curse".
When I had to give back the the house key to my ex's place last Feb. which was VERY hard, I don't know if I put as much of a curse on it as energy of whatever sort, I can't even remember what all the energy I gave it. It mostly had to do with the fact that he did do me wrong and I tried to kinda put the energy of "get your act together and remember what you are doing is wrong"-it may have been used by a girl that moved in with him after-even from an outsiders point of view the things that happened were truely wrong on both their parts and still are for different reasons (long story), it was just "a woman scorned" thing although that may have had some to do with it.
All in all, I think will sleep in the bed we make even if it does not happen the next day-in the end it equals out one way or another. Also, the rain falls on the just and injust. I have had my share of not so good things happen to me that I have not deserved but on the other hand I have done bad things that I have had grace and forgiveness on-for that I am grateful.
And other times....well, nuts happens

[ladyjay]

yes i bleieve. I wont put a curse on someone because whatever you give out comes back to you 7 full. Sooooooooooo........no curse making for me thank you.

[starr]

I do practise the wiccan belief of harm none and the law of three, so I would never curse someone. And until 6 years ago never believed they had any power either, than I personally witnessed the unfolding of a series of events that convinced me that curses are real and that evil does exist, and both can be quite overwhelming and strong, but only for a short period of time, thank the powers that be. Because when this type of negative energy and evil is summoned by a person who has empowered themselves in that realm to there fullest potential, it is a force to be reckoned with. The good news, I repeat, seems to be that there abilities to manifest this energy is short term and cannot be sustained over long periods of time. My experience changed my belief on this, it was that intense and strong.