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Post by greywolf on Apr 7, 2007 13:54:50 GMT -5
i've always wondered what is wrong with the dreaded friday the 13th. it has always been seen as a doomed day, where everything goes wrong. i have found out why people didn't like mondays, but i'll leave that for another thread, hehe.
if you have any insight into the friday 13th myth i'd enjoy reading them
peter
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Post by RainlessRiley on Jul 8, 2007 1:37:50 GMT -5
There are many reasons why people consider Friday the 13th unlucky.
1) In norse mythology, theres a tale about 12 gods being invited to a dinner party. Loki, the god of mischief was not invited and decided to go anyways. during that meal, loki had Hod kill Balder the Good, who was one of the most favored gods. Because of this all of Valhalla grieved for days. (moral: 13 at a dinner party is unlucky.)
2.) In christianity, in the last supper there were 13 people, the 13th having been Judas who defied Christ and led to the cruxifiction. the later cruxifiction of Christ took place of a Friday
3.)Supposedly it was on a Friday that eve tempted Adam with the forbidden fruit. Adam bit it, and they were both removed from paradise.
4.) friday was considered a holy day for the peagans, so of course the christian church tried to make it a bad day to all christians in order to suppress the peagans.
There are many other ways in which Friday and 13 are both unlucky, but combine the too, you have an unluckier friday. theres actually no mention of Friday the 13th having been unlucky before the very late 1800's.
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Post by *Gypsy* on Jan 10, 2008 23:23:41 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]Friday the Thirteenth: The idea that this day would bring bad luck has its roots in both Norse and Christian beliefs. The Scandinavian's believed that the number 13 was unlucky due to the mythological 12 demigods being joined by a 13th, an evil one, who brought misfortune upon humans. Christ was said to have been crucified on Friday and the number of guests at the party of the Last Supper was 13, with the 13th guest being Judas, the traitor. [/glow]
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Post by lovelychriss on Jul 4, 2008 2:00:44 GMT -5
Here is a reason for it being considered unlucky Well there ya go my roots are showing finally (didn't take long) I was raised Masonic. No church just masonic.
699 years ago, French King Phillipe IV, conspiring with Pope Clement V, arrested and dissolved the Order of Knights Templar arresting the order in France, including their Grand Master Jacques de Molay. The arrest was founded on accusations and scandalous, perverse rumours about them .
After interrogations and likely coerced confessions (remember this was the era of inquisitions), de Molay confesed only to "denying Christ and trampling on the Cross", statements he was forced to repeat in public for the humiliation of the noble order. With his confession, the Pope ordered the arrest of all Knights Templar across Chrisendom, which lead to tortured confessions and accusations of herasy. Many Templar knights were absorbed into other knighthoods, such as the Knights of Malta and the Hospitilars.
De Molay and his command, languishing in prison for 7 years, to be given life sentences in 1314. Seeing the destruction of the order he rose up and recanted his confessions in an act of defiance to Phillipe IV, who summarily had de Molay burned at the stake on the Ile de la Cite in the river Seine.
On the pyre, it's said that de Molay cursed the King and the Pope to meet him before the judgment of God before the year was over.
Both Philip and Clement V died before the year was out.
The arrest of de Molay on that fateful October 13th, 1307 signaled the end of the once prosporous and vigilant knights. It is believed by some that a handful of knights escaped with the wealth of the order on boats bound to parts unknown.
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Post by aislinstorm on Feb 13, 2009 9:07:59 GMT -5
I found this intersting tidbit...very fitting since today is Friday February 13 2009
According to Fernsler, numerologists consider 12 a "complete" number. There are 12 months in a year, 12 signs of the zodiac, 12 gods of Olympus, 12 labors of Hercules, 12 tribes of Israel, and 12 apostles of Jesus. In exceeding 12 by 1, Fernsler said 13's association with bad luck "has to do with just being a little beyond completeness. The number becomes restless or squirmy."
The day Friday was named after Frigg (or Frigga) Later she was confused with the goddess of love, Freya, who in turn became identified with Friday. The name "Friday" came from a Norse deity worshipped on the sixth day, known either as Frigg (goddess of marriage and fertility), or Freya (goddess of sex and fertility), or both, the two figures having become intertwined in the handing-down of myths over time (the etymology of "Friday" has been given both ways). Frigg/Freya corresponded to Venus, the goddess of love of the Romans, who named the sixth day of the week in her honor "dies Veneris."
Friday was actually considered quite lucky by pre-Christian Teutonic peoples, we are told � especially as a day to get married � because of its traditional association with love and fertility. All that changed when Christianity came along. The goddess of the sixth day � most likely Freya in this context, given that the cat was her sacred animal � was recast in post-pagan folklore as a witch, and her day became associated with evil doings.
Various legends developed in that vein, but one is of particular interest: As the story goes, the witches of the north used to observe their sabbath by gathering in a cemetery in the dark of the moon. On one such occasion the Friday goddess, Freya herself, came down from her sanctuary in the mountaintops and appeared before the group, who numbered only 12 at the time, and gave them one of her cats, after which the witches' coven � and, by tradition, every properly-formed coven since � comprised exactly 13. Hope you all enjoyed it.
Aislin
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