So can we fly

[steve]

Probably one of the Witches best kept secrets is the ability to fly. It was in the middle ages believed that Witches could fly from one place to another and was said that they fly to covens or sabbath meetings. In the burning times there where reported confessions from Witches that they could fly and that some gave details of how this magical feat could be done. I have heard of three diffrent ways of looking at this.

1/ was to use a magical ointment or a lotion which was rubbed on there bodies.

2/ it was said that shapeshifting was possible and transforming in to a bird.

3/ Hallucinogenic substances could be used and may account for many of these beliefs.

So i was thinking is it possible for us to solve the mystery of flying. and may be get me of the ground. So i intend on finding any and all information on this, can you help, do you know of some thing that may be of interest.

It was reported that in the 1664 in somerset England, Julian Cox told how she had saw three people riding towards her flying on broomsticks. She says that they where about five feet from the ground.

The ointment which the Witches smeared on them selfs may have caused delusions of flying. So what was this ointment made from. I have a couple of ideas to whot could be in such an ointment. It may of been that the ointment was used on the broom its self.


The MALLEUS MALEFICARUM.

What Malleus did was to go around in search of Witches to become ally's with the christian Devil, which also added conspiracy of satanists. Witches were no longer malevolent lone operators. they now ranked with the best, Sorcerers and necromancers. they where named as a menace to christendom the Devil worshippers flying on broomsticks.

Flying high with Magical herbs.

"Please Note" That there is a diffrence between , A natural drug like an herb and a man made symphetic drug,

Herbs have been used in rituals for thousands of years. and came in the from of liquors , food, and herbs.

Below are a list of hallucinogenic drugs/herbs, some of which many be illegal and others advisable not to be taken and poisonous. among this list may be some herbs that witches may of used for Astral journeys.

Magic mushrooms.
Marijuana
Mugwort
Hemlock
Belladonna

Hemlock is known to be one of the herbs used by the Witches and was added to the flying oinments to elevate the soul and astral- project in to other planes.

THe best i know of the flying ointment dates back to 1615 and was by jean de nynauld. It is said that the main ingredients are the fat of a child??? , Water parsnip (Hemlock), cinquefoil and Deadly nightshade (Belladonna) were steeped in a base of pigs fat or other animal fat. And then added to the wrists temples and other areas where the skin is thin, This would achieve a highly intoxicated state and would produce the sensation of flying.

[*Gypsy*]

This is poisonous when ingested

Flying ointment first described by Johannes Hartlieb in 1456 is a hallucinogenic ointment.
They did not call them flying ointments at the time, they were called 'green oils' or 'green ointment', because of the mixture of herbs.
I have always heard that the use of morphine and poppy were used along with the ones you described.
here is more info I found online about these.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_ointment

I think the most important thing is the Wise Ones knew how to make pain killers for women in child birth for the "Twilight Sleep".
Some have said that the alkaloids of henbane and belladonna created the sensation of flying or out-of-body experience, and that these account for the descriptions of witches flying that are met with in some documents of the Inquisition.
So you can check the records.
about the using baby fat.. that was only in fiction and use in making movies.

Here is a safer version of a flying ointment recipe.
NOTE: For external use only


1/4 cup lard
1/2 tsp clove oil
1 tsp ash
1/4 tsp. dried cinquefoil
1/4 tsp. dried mugwort
1/4 tsp. dried thistle
1/4 dried vervain
1/2 tsp. benzoin tincture


Ritual : Using a mortar and pestle, crush the dried herbs until almost powdered. In a small cauldron or saucepan, heat the lard over a low flame until it is melted completely. Add the herbs, the clove oil and chimney soot to the lard base and mix well. Add the benzoin as a natural preservative, stir together clockwise and then simmer for ten to fifteen minutes. Strain it through cheesecloth into a small heat resistant container and then allow it to cool. Store it in your refrigerator or in a cool dark place until it is ready to be used. On a night of the Full Moon, anoint your temples and Third Eye with a small amount of the flying ointment.

get more info here:

www.geocities.com/lavenderwater37/flying_ointment.htm

This is one of my favt sites on Witches and herbs,it's very informative.

BlessedBe Gypsy

[dragonsteve]

Verspertillionis sanguinem, Acorus vulgare and Solanum somniferum are boiled in oil. To this we add stramonium and hemp, The blood and fat of night bird to bring it all into an ointment.

The active ingredient yet again is belladonna, a very dangerours poison that produce
delirium and hemp which is intoxicating and brings on hallucinations

Witches used this ointment in their ceremonies, And is said to make them fly.

If you ingested this ointment you would die from the poisons very sortly after. but it is said the ointment was rubbed all over your naked body.